Nate Soares is a computer scientist who’s worked at Google and the Defense Department. So when he says AI is on the path to killing every person on earth, it’s worth hearing him out.
Nate Soares is President of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute (MIRI), where he has led AI safety research for more than a decade following engineering roles at Google and Microsoft. He is the co-author, alongside Eliezer Yudkowsky, of the New York Times bestselling book If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies: Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us All (2025), which argues that the current race to develop super intelligent AI will end catastrophically unless humanity globally coordinates to stop it.
Nate has published extensively on AI alignment, including foundational work on decision theory, goal specification, and the incentives that drive advanced AI systems to seek power in ways their creators neither anticipate nor intend.
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Chapters:
0:00 Why Is AI Dangerous?
7:59 How Superintelligence Could Destroy the Planet
13:44 Can We Just Turn This Off?
15:10 Is AI Alive?
17:43 The Unpredictable Evolution of AI
20:13 The US and China’s Shared Interest in AI
31:20 The Tech Oligarchs More Powerful Than the Government
32:38 The Holy Grail of Hacking
35:34 Is There a Religious Motive for Creating Superintelligence?
46:30 The Tech Oligarchs Scared of Their Own Creation
52:57 How AI Escaped Its Training Simulation
1:03:58 AI Attached to Weapons Systems
1:07:54 AI Running Biolabs
1:10:38 How Would AI Take Over the Physical World?
1:13:04 The AI Cults
1:15:51 Can We Survive This?
1:21:45 Will AI Take Your Job?
1:26:16 Is AI Demonic?
1:31:25 Should We Be Optimistic?
1:32:25 When Did AI Become a Threat?
1:34:36 Is There Hope?
1:42:26 Neuralink
1:46:02 Are We at the Point of No Return?
